The Final Ruling of the Colorado Wedding Cake Case

Announcer: It’s Quinn & Cantera on PYX 106.

Cantera: 1-800-Law1010, 1800Law1010.com, Martin Harding & Mazzotti. It’s Paul Harding. When are you going to put the girl that’s on the back of the bus, robe-a-doe, what’s her name? When you put her on the whole name?

Paul: Yeah, it’s Rosemarie Bogdan. And…

Cantera: Yeah, It’s Rosemarie Bodgan. It can be Martin, Harding and Mazzotti, and Bogdan.

Paul: It just gets confusing the more names we keep adding. Yeah.

Quinn: Don’t try to tower his pressure, Paul.

Cantera: I was following a bus with her face on it. I’m like, “She eat more. I’m going to tell Paul tomorrow.” No, we’re here to talk about the gay cake.

Quinn: Straight cakes.

Cantera: Straight cake, gay cake, gay gate.

Quinn: The Supreme Court ruling came down and I thought they did a good job of explaining it. But I guess the fear, Paul, is that people will overreact one way or another when they really shouldn’t. This is about just that one baker, right?

Paul: So sometimes the Supreme Court which is an amazing body and it’s down there in Washington and they work so hard to pick a case. And they get a case and then they render a decision. And it doesn’t mean a lot. I mean it really is specific to these set of facts. It’s not changed the law.

You cannot discriminate based on someone’s sexual orientation. But in this case, they found that this cake maker and his custom cakes, he had the ability not to sell the cake to a gay couple because religious grounds prevented him and I mean him…

Quinn: Just him, just him.

Paul: …from doing it.

Quinn: And baking.

Paul: So it appears, yeah.

Cantera: But there was something about how the State Supreme Court kind of handle it. They kind of butchered it. I thought they made reference to that. I…is this…I know that this is the Supreme Court kicking the can down the road. But I also like…

Quinn: But I don’t think it is. I think it’s the Supreme Court being the one voice of reason out of this whole thing.

Cantera: Well, what I was going to say. I like what they did Paul, they kind of put it back out to society, saying, “Hey, you got to be more respectful of each other in both capacities.”

Quinn: Then society went, “Huh?”

Cantera: But I said they kicked the can down the road because we’re going to have another one of this cake maker wedding vendor kind of lawsuits.

Quinn: You think people will just go out specifically to have people try to make cakes, gay cakes and say to people, yeah.

Cantera: Probably.

Quinn: Yeah.

Paul: There’s actually a case coming up and it’s involving again a wedding. It was a lesbian couple wedding where they would not sell flowers to the wedding.

Quinn: Oh, yeah.

Paul: So here you don’t have this custom component that was really talked about, you don’t have this commission, the Civil Rights Commission, they said was unfair to the baker. This is going to be really purely, “Can a business say no to someone based on their sexual orientation?” Now that case is coming up in about six months. I suspect that’s going to be a little more hardhitting.

Cantera: Did they drop the ball, though or was their point made? Or did they just have bigger fish to fry?

Paul: Well, I think they really decided, “Listen, we have the Supreme Court. We do really big things but sometimes we do things just for individuals.” And that’s sort of what I… how I read this case.

Quinn: All right.

Cantera: Paul Harding. Martin Harding & Mazzotti, 1-800-Law-1010, 1800Law1010.com. Thanks, buddy.

Quinn: Thanks, Paul.

Paul: Bye-bye, guys.

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